04 Jun 2003

One Piece Tie Rod

A couple of pictures that show the tie rod end clearance issue when trying to upgrade to a one-piece tie rod.

Here’s the clearance issue when doing a 1-pc tierod conversion on an early Jeep. The hole where you attach the drag link will hit or catch on the leaf spring when wheels are turned to the driver’s side.

The solution is to add a shim, in this case a 2 1/2 degree version, in between the leaf spring and axle. This gains about 1/2 inch between the tie rod and spring. It also increases caster, which may increase steering effort required but also may improve return-to-center action.

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October 13, 2003

I broke a tie rod on my 52 M38 on the weekend. I have converted my steering to a sagnall box. I got a tie rod from the local 4x4 shop and it is the right one but it is bent to the left not the right which the old one was. The part number is 640178, which I can find searching the web but can not find anything on the tie rod that is bent to the right. Can anyone help me with a number. Thanks

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(Author)
October 13, 2003

Hi Dwaine -

Searching on that number it looks like you’re talking about the long tie rod end, with the hole in it for the other tie rod to attach to?

Are you also running a one-piece long tie rod, connecting your knuckles together? 

Or still using the original setup, with the long tie rod end with the hole in it mounted in the center of the Jeep?

I’m not aware there was ever a long tie rod end bent the other way, but also not as familiar with the military setups.

I’d recommend taking a look around http://www.g503.com Just be aware that they’re not big on modifcations..wink

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October 14, 2003

Hi Michael, yes I am using a one peice long tie rod, connecting the knuckles together. On the passenger side tie rod I am using the tie rod with the hole in it, then another tie rod going from the hole to pitman arm of the sagnall steering box. This is the tie rod with the hole in it, is the one that broke. The tie rod that broke is the same tie rod part number 640178 but bent the other way. I know that it is made because I have one, or should I say I had one. If I can find a part number for this tie rod would help my problem. Thanks

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(Author)
October 14, 2003

Dwaine -

I’ve posted your question on the EarlyCJ5 board at http://www.earlycj5.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=65801#65801

Maybe you can get an answer there.  They’re gonna ask for pics though...wink

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