http://www.boyink.com/splaat/weblog/ Mostly web stuff from Michael Boyink of Boyink Interactive en pmachine@boyink.com Copyright 2008 2008-05-07T12:42:00-05:00 http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/no-more-church-sites/ http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/no-more-church-sites/#When:12:42:00Z Thank you—but its not saying that we have had our fair share of churches that have high demands ands incredibly low budgets. I’m sure we have all heard the lines, “We have a volunteer....” bjs --Brandon Steiger 2008-05-07T12:42:00-05:00 http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/dear-latest-social-network/ http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/dear-latest-social-network/#When:12:42:00Z Thanks! Is this codeCzar MIchael, or funDiva Christy, lol. --Ty 2008-05-07T12:42:00-05:00 http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/dear-latest-social-network/ http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/dear-latest-social-network/#When:12:42:00Z This was so funny I dugg it: http://digg.com/tech_news/A_Dear_John_letter_to_the_Social_Networks And I am giggling at myself from the irony of further perpetuating the social network overwhelm by submitting your comment to YASN -Yet Another Social Network! --funDiva Christy 2008-05-07T12:42:00-05:00 http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/no-more-church-sites/ http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/no-more-church-sites/#When:12:42:00Z (And yes, once again it’s Boyink posting from the wife’s laptop… --Crissa 2008-05-07T12:42:00-05:00 http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/no-more-church-sites/ http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/no-more-church-sites/#When:12:42:00Z I’m glad to hear that Brandon: I’ll be the first one to suggest that the issue could be entirely on my end - either it’s my own branding and personality that isn’t attracting the churches willing to pay the price for quality, or my business model just isn’t right, or I don’t know how to find those internal champions.  Or, maybe I’m just tired.. Regardless - I’m feeling like it’s time for me to step away from church websites for now. I’ll be happy to refer future church leads to you guys if you want. --Crissa 2008-05-07T12:42:00-05:00 http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/no-more-church-sites/ http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/no-more-church-sites/#When:12:42:00Z Hey Mike, While I understand your frustrations I can tell you that more and more churches everyday are being filled with powerful thinkers and dreamers when it comes to the Web. This new generation of movers and shakers are realizing that to do great things on the web they must also pay the price. We have continued to see a number of churches come our way that want to do it right but are just scared to spend that type of money, but we have learned with the right guidance from internal champions that more and more churches are doing it right. While we respect and honor your decision I think the trend is slowly changing… Brandon --Brandon Steiger 2008-05-07T12:42:00-05:00 http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/potential-client-red-flags-part-2/ http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/potential-client-red-flags-part-2/#When:12:42:00Z Very useful information and I’ve bookmarked the page. --EFL Geek 2008-05-07T12:42:00-05:00 http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/potential-client-red-flags-part-2/ http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/potential-client-red-flags-part-2/#When:12:42:00Z Nice… I hadn’t read the earlier list, and wondered why you didn’t just stop at 4 more to make it a Top 10. You had to go for the dozen. I’ve seen a few comment threads where someone tries diving into a tutorial, and then extending the project. They tell the developer of the tutorial project (not talking about train-ee) that they need to help on the project, and “of course you’ll be compensated”. No sense of courtesy at all, or social graces for that matter. A red flag of the day around here is, someone who claims to have quite a grasp of dreamweaver or name the WYSIWYG editor, they seem to want to art direct, but only know what it is they don’t like. Rant’s over outta here. Thanks Mike. --t2ee 2008-05-07T12:42:00-05:00 http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/no-more-church-sites/ http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/no-more-church-sites/#When:12:42:00Z I wonder how many of the churches that you spoke with ended up with a dynamic CMS site? Probably the same number 1. They maybe ended up with a hosted service provider, site builder type of setup, or somebody’s kid had a copy of dreamweaver or frontpage and through something together. It takes a piece of work to keep a site updated, and in the end it is what serves the purpose, and who is dedicated to keeping the site updated, so that the site gets plenty of use. I bet they all settled for less than there expectations. --Ty 2008-05-07T12:42:00-05:00 http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/no-more-church-sites/ http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/no-more-church-sites/#When:12:42:00Z Mike, I can understand what a difficult decision this was for you. However, the advice and support at your training-ee.com site will benefit many more churches. --Deborah 2008-05-07T12:42:00-05:00